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Notes 8 and Notes 7 coexistence
Yesterday I tried to install Notes 8 next to Notes 7. I did some research first and found this post on Notes.Net.
I followed the instructions without really knowing if things have changed since the gold release, so this is what I did (inspired by the release notes):
- (Obviously) shut down the Notes client and all Notes-related tools, utilities and add-ins running on your computer.
- Renamed the Notes 7.x directory from C:\Program Files\Lotus\Notes to Notes7.
- Renamed the entire Notes registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes7.
- Rename the entire Installer registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Lotus\Notes\Installer to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Lotus\Notes\Installer7
- Ran the Notes 8 install program. Accepted the default installation path and program and data directories: C:\Program Files\IBM\Lotus\Notes and C:\Program Files\IBM\Lotus\Notes\Data.
- Started Notes 8.
- Renamed the 7.x directory back to the original directory name C:\Program Files\Lotus\Notes.
And guess what: it works! I have 2 separate Notes configurations and they don’t share data, just to be on the save side, so I can do some Notes 8 experiments without screwing up existing data.
The only minor problems I encountered, was the fact that the uninstaller for Notes 7 disappeared, as well as my shortcuts to Notes 7. Why? I don’t know. Maybe I shouldn’t have started Notes 8 in step 6? (it wasn’t really mentioned in the release notes)
Below there’s a screenshot of my desktop with 3 Notes Clients and 2 Domino Designers opened: so many Notes, so little time 
How this is possible? I have a MacBook Pro and I run Windows in Parallels, so there’s Notes 8 and Notes 7 Windows versions, and a Notes Client 7 for Mac. IBM, what about the Lotus Notes 8 for Mac?
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December 29th, 2007 at 11:43 am
I have installed Notes R5, 6, 7 and 8 (and Domino 6, 7 and
on my Windows machine.
I got into the habit to install them in %ProgramFiles%\NotesX with X is the version number.
Registry keys: I export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes to notesX.reg and rename HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\NotesX directly after the installation, as well as
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Lotus\Notes to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Lotus\NotesX.
Then I import all notesX.reg files back into the registry. This is only important for Notes 8, since it uses a license file, which it locates using the registry information.
And all clients can run concurrently: I have to start Notes 8 Standard first, then all other versions using their respective nlnotes.exe.
December 29th, 2007 at 11:45 am
The sunny boy
was the digit 8 followed by a closing bracket.
December 29th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for sharing your technique! But I don’t understand why you export and import the keys, instead of just changing them?
December 29th, 2007 at 11:03 pm
Before installing an upgrade (“point-version”) or a third-party product (like Ytria, Noteshound, DDSearch, etc.) I delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes and rename HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\NotesX back to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes (X is the version, I update or install into). In case of an update I additionally rename HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Lotus\NotesX back to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Lotus\Notes.
Afterwards I export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes into a new reg file, rename HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\Notes to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lotus\NotesX and import all other reg files.
This way, all installations are absolutely “clean”.
March 13th, 2008 at 9:35 am
well I followed these steps and guess what:
March 13th, 2008 at 9:39 am
well I followed these steps and guess what: ALREADY DURING THE INSTALLATION OF NOTES 8 I GET ERROR MESSAGES LIKE: ERROR 1905 MODULE C:PROGRAM FILES\LOTUS\NOTES\NLSXBE.DLL FAILED TO UNREGISTER + CWPPROO25E: AN UNEXPECTED ERROR OCCURRED WHILE PROCESSING THE PROVISIONING MANIFEST
SO THANKS IBM FOR SCREWING UP MY WORK-ENVIRONMENT!
why can those people just not supply an installation-program where you can easily install multiple notes clients beside each other??!!
March 16th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
DONT FOLLOW THIS SETUP, ONE REASON: YOUR PREVIEW IN WEBBROWSER WILL NOT FUNCTION ANY MORE
August 12th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Hi. Does this work OK for 6.5.5 and 8 coexisting ?
Everything seems to be OK with Notes client but I can’t get Designer 6.5 and 8 running at the same time.
August 18th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Hi Chris,
I suggest you take a look at Thomas’s article then, it’s a great help: http://www.assono.de/blog/d6plinks/Running-Notes-R5-6-7-8-concurrently
Regards,
Martin
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
We are currently in Lotus Notes 5.10 Client and need to upgrade to R8.5 Client. What is the upgrade path ? or is it just to plug in the R8.5 cd and run the upgrde ?
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
My STRONG suggestion is to ask your local Notes/Domino consultant to assist you in your task.
A direct migration from R5 to 8.5 isn’t supported by IBM.
What is with your servers? Which version(s)? Migration planned?
Additional products like client-side virus scanners? Client-side PDA synchronisation? Citrix? CTI?
Only Notes standard apps or custom applications?
You see, there is a lot to consider…
Thomas
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
we are currently runing LN Client 5.10 and need to upgrade to LN Client 8.5.
I have three Questions. Thanks in advance.
Question 1)I need to know if this is straight forward ?
Questions 2) is a there an upgrade version path to follow ? and what are the specific reason ?
Question 3) If there is a path to follow must the Notes Client be launched to the upgrade at each version install ?
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Hi Carlos,
you are ignoring my questions…
In fact, there are many, many possible obstacles, and if it’s just as easy as running an setup.exe depends strongly on the environment, the existing installation etc.
Thomas
tbahn@assono.de
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Sorry, I re-posted my questions. I did nto see your response.
Severs 6.56 fixpack 2
Client R5.10
We have moved to Outlook for mail and we only need the client/servres to support the notes appliations. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am looking for technical documentation that leads me to understand all aspects of the client upgrade.
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 pm
I’m repeating myself, but simply I have to: I strongly suggest, you ask a local Notes/Domino administator/consultant and discuss the details of your environment. There are way too many “variables” in this equation to give you serious and reliable advice just knowing your versions and you use Notes only for applications.
Thomas
tbahn@assono.de
March 5th, 2009 at 8:52 am
I agree with Thomas, I also suggest you ask a Notes administrator/consultant to help you with this.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Hi,
I made something like this but Im running on 2 notes same version 7.0.3 and connected to 2 differenet servers. But my problem is that Im working now on a vbs script that should connect to one of the notes and access a specific database which is available only in one of the notes If I use
Set Session = CreateObject(“Notes.NotesSession”)
It connects to the closest session and if it is the wrong database the script does not work. Anybody know how could I connect to the specific notes session?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Hi Marek,
there are some “hooks” in the system, where only one Notes client can be attached to. One example are the file extensions: when you double click a .nsf file, for obvious reasons only one client can be started.
Another “hook” is the COM interface to Notes. Only one dll can be registered to be responsible fo Notes.NotesSession. Normally this is one dll of the last installed Notes client.
I wrote a small batch file to “switch” the responsible dll each time I start the Notes client. I used it for a former version of NotesHound (www.noteshound.com) to work properly (current versions don’t need this trick anymore).
But you can use the same “trick” for your vbs script. I documented the batch file in our blog at:
http://www.assono.de/blog/d6plinks/NotesHound-and-concurrent-Notes-installations
October 17th, 2009 at 9:25 am
hi!
i have same problem as Marek, but i need runnig two notes same version (8.5.1 standart) to two different servers.
Maybe anybody do this?
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