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	<title>Comments on: Notes 8 Toolbar Buttons: oh no, they&#8217;re everywhere!</title>
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		<title>By: John Onstrup</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Onstrup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IBM Lotus NOtes 8.
I have a problem with the toolsbars in Lotus Notes. I want the toolbars (universal, Editing, Navigation, Adress &#38; instant messing) to be displayed when the user starts the client.

I have tried to modify the bookmark.ntf but it did not solve the problem. I cannot find the file theese settings are saved in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBM Lotus NOtes 8.<br />
I have a problem with the toolsbars in Lotus Notes. I want the toolbars (universal, Editing, Navigation, Adress &amp; instant messing) to be displayed when the user starts the client.</p>
<p>I have tried to modify the bookmark.ntf but it did not solve the problem. I cannot find the file theese settings are saved in.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Hauble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Hauble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happens to me too..  It's really bad when you access a link on a page that fires off a browser session within the client</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happens to me too..  It&#8217;s really bad when you access a link on a page that fires off a browser session within the client</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Tripcony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Tripcony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@10 - ...or Linux; this doesn't happen on my Eee either, happens all the time on my XP machine, and it's one of my pet peeves with Notes 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@10 - &#8230;or Linux; this doesn&#8217;t happen on my Eee either, happens all the time on my XP machine, and it&#8217;s one of my pet peeves with Notes 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Vereecken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Vereecken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Everybody should switch to Mac! Steve J. will love this! ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Everybody should switch to Mac! Steve J. will love this! ;-).</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Rivera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Rivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh actually it only happens on my Windows XP machine.  My iMac with Lotus Notes 8.5 B1 doesn't do this.  Weird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh actually it only happens on my Windows XP machine.  My iMac with Lotus Notes 8.5 B1 doesn&#8217;t do this.  Weird</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Rivera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Rivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same problem.  Sometimes I get extra icons and sometimes they are all missing or out of place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem.  Sometimes I get extra icons and sometimes they are all missing or out of place.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Vereecken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Vereecken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charles,

So it's a good thing that Mary responded to this... Maybe she can push it higher in the list...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charles,</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a good thing that Mary responded to this&#8230; Maybe she can push it higher in the list&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I've seen this ever since the 8.0 betas, and in every R8 release since including both 8.5 betas.  It's a huge problem and is one of the reasons I can't recommend deploying 8.x Standard.  8.x Basic doesn't have this issue.

It's more than a little annoying that I have mentioned this to various people at Lotus and the standard response I have gotten is that IBM has deployed this to 140,000+ people and nobody has ever seen this before.  The forums are littered with this kind of thing, and I've seen it consistently and so has everyone I know, so I find it highly suspicious that it was never reported by anyone at IBM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;ve seen this ever since the 8.0 betas, and in every R8 release since including both 8.5 betas.  It&#8217;s a huge problem and is one of the reasons I can&#8217;t recommend deploying 8.x Standard.  8.x Basic doesn&#8217;t have this issue.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more than a little annoying that I have mentioned this to various people at Lotus and the standard response I have gotten is that IBM has deployed this to 140,000+ people and nobody has ever seen this before.  The forums are littered with this kind of thing, and I&#8217;ve seen it consistently and so has everyone I know, so I find it highly suspicious that it was never reported by anyone at IBM.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Vereecken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Vereecken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mary, I didn't test 8.5b2 yet, but according to David it has the same issues.  I guess micro-explosions in Eclipse cause this ;-).
@David, I also have the issue where the toolbars shrink and hide the other icons.
@Albert, it's annoying indeed and it doesn't stop me from using Notes 8 or it doesn't move me to Microsoft (I need more than that ;-)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mary, I didn&#8217;t test 8.5b2 yet, but according to David it has the same issues.  I guess micro-explosions in Eclipse cause this ;-).<br />
@David, I also have the issue where the toolbars shrink and hide the other icons.<br />
@Albert, it&#8217;s annoying indeed and it doesn&#8217;t stop me from using Notes 8 or it doesn&#8217;t move me to Microsoft (I need more than that ;-)).</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Buendia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Buendia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same problem !! With the Spanish Notes client you can enjoy yourself! You have a lot of icons twice or three times. One icon in Spanish and the same icon in English. I hope IBM to fix up this ugly issue with all languages (NOT only English). This is THE REASON why I have not upgraded any Notes 7 station or server to Notes 8 version. Will be fixed in 8.5? This is how IBM moves custorems to Microsoft !! I can't understand. Is any IBM stuff testing their products before releasing gold versions? So, 8.0.2 has the same bugs. Stay for 8.5 and good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem !! With the Spanish Notes client you can enjoy yourself! You have a lot of icons twice or three times. One icon in Spanish and the same icon in English. I hope IBM to fix up this ugly issue with all languages (NOT only English). This is THE REASON why I have not upgraded any Notes 7 station or server to Notes 8 version. Will be fixed in 8.5? This is how IBM moves custorems to Microsoft !! I can&#8217;t understand. Is any IBM stuff testing their products before releasing gold versions? So, 8.0.2 has the same bugs. Stay for 8.5 and good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: David Vasta</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vasta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same problem with Notes 8. I have 8.0.2 and 8.5b2 and they all are the same. The other problem is you can move them around and set them how you want and the next time you come back in to Notes they are all messed up again. It drives me nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem with Notes 8. I have 8.0.2 and 8.5b2 and they all are the same. The other problem is you can move them around and set them how you want and the next time you come back in to Notes they are all messed up again. It drives me nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: David Leedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Leedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this ALL THE TIME... especially in Designer...  the tool bars just move around by themselves...  sometimes they're next to each other forcing larger ones to not display everything until they are manually resized...

I just upgraded to 8.0.2 hoping this might be fixed... alas - no luck....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this ALL THE TIME&#8230; especially in Designer&#8230;  the tool bars just move around by themselves&#8230;  sometimes they&#8217;re next to each other forcing larger ones to not display everything until they are manually resized&#8230;</p>
<p>I just upgraded to 8.0.2 hoping this might be fixed&#8230; alas - no luck&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Beth Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Beth Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
We are trying to fix this. Certainly this is not the experience we designed. Have you installed the Notes 8.5 beta 2? did it get any better? (To be honest,  in my daily build today I found an issue of the Symphony toolbar showing up when I had my mail file open... so we're still fixing bugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
We are trying to fix this. Certainly this is not the experience we designed. Have you installed the Notes 8.5 beta 2? did it get any better? (To be honest,  in my daily build today I found an issue of the Symphony toolbar showing up when I had my mail file open&#8230; so we&#8217;re still fixing bugs.</p>
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